Time for trip dreaming again! I'm using this space to pull together some thoughts about an adventurous, culturally fascinating trip. Live links are pink. Dive in!
~ BELIZE ~
I'd like to start for at least a few nights on Caye Caulker.
Colinda Cabañas is where we like to stay; it deserves the
terrific reviews it gets on Trip Advisor.
Here's an old blog post I like about Caye Caulker. I'd like to schedule at least a morning of diving and/or a group snorkeling trip.
Mike has enjoyed fishing on his own - mostly bonefish...
...but once a tarpon from the dock at Colinda Cabañas.
There are lots of great places to eat but our favorite is
Wish Willy (and it will be lobster season!).
We also enjoy street food and the banana bread lady's desserts.
The trip is 3 days/2 nights and the nights are on these beautiful cayes, camping the 1st night and either camping or in a room the 2nd night.
Apparently there's some fishing on offer. Here's a
YouTube video someone made of their trip.
The trip ends in Dangriga on the southern coast. We have lots of options from there but We are thinking they'll probably focus on fishing for permit. We could bus or fly or hire a driver to take us south.
We could head to Placencia, at the end of a long, narrow peninsula further south along the coast.
Mike had an awesome time fishing with a guide named
Wayne Castellanos so that's an option - staying in Placencia and fishing with Wayne or another talented local guide. Lodging costs vary on what we choose and I think we can assume any good guide will charge $500-600/day for up to 2 clients.
There's snorkeling and diving on offer, too, and mainland options including waterfall hikes, caving, spice tours, waterfall rappelling, and Maya sites. One tour we did last time we could do again is the Monkey River Tour which includes a boat trip and hiking.
I think we'd want at least 3 nights in Placencia if we head there. I haven't looked much at lodging but these 3 have popped up:
Captain Jak's:
And
Placencia Villas which appears to be the updated version of where we stayed last time.
Another option is a fancy island place off shore from Dangriga not far from South Water Caye called
Thatch Caye -
here is a review link. It gets a lot of non-fishing business, too, but apparently their head flyfishing guide is a legend and the area is great for permit. The fishing part of the operation is called
Blue Horizon and gets great
reviews on Trip Advisor. The bad news is that it's expensive - $3900 per couple for 5 nights all inclusive with 4 full days guided fishing or $2400 per couple for 3 nights/2 days fishing.
Another island option is
Whipray Caye, off shore from Placencia; the
reviews are good but there aren't any recent ones. It appears to be about the same price but not as fancy - no air conditioning, for example, and not as much else on offer. The owner is another legendary guide and his wife is apparently a great cook.
Mike asked me to see if I could find
Tarpon Caye Lodge because in 2012 when he fished with Wayne they fished near that island and he saw the lodge there. It has new owners, looks nice, more expensive than Thatch Caye.
I looked over the websites for
Pelican Beach and
Blue Marlin Beach Resort on South Water Caye but their prices would be at least as much as Thatch Caye. The Pelican Beach site says, "Fly fishing guides and boats arranged with prior notice
". Blue Marlin has flyfishing packages but doesn't tout their guides - sounds like they just arrange with someone else = potluck.
Here are some options on Glover's Atoll:
Glover's Atoll Resort gets
mixed reviews, has cheaper options. Over the water cabin for 6 nights with meal plans, kayak rental, and tax would be about $1500 + $55/dive and $300/day fishing. Beach cabin and kayak rental with no meals, $650 (they might upgrade to over the water).
Isla Marisol gets
better reviews, has 4 night packages that would run $2150 + $60/dive and $450/day fishing. Their week long packages (7 nights) run Saturday to Saturday or Wednesday to Wednesday and are $3050; diving x6 = $435.
We're also looking at
Garbutt's Fishing Lodge which is way south on the mainland in the town of Punta Gorda - off the beaten track. Mike feels that is sort of appealing because we think the fishing areas would get less pressure. Here's a description on a fancy website that advertising in the fishing magazines -
Yellow Dog Flyfishing. Here are the
reviews. The cabins sit over the water (it's not an area with sandy beaches) and look rustic but have televisions and air conditioning which we have appreciated having on recent trips. I emailed for rates and they quoted "4 nights/3 days for 4 guests, 2 cabins, 1 fishing guide - $5595.00 total for all 4 guests" and apparently don't offer staying there without all inclusive as an option. That seems high - comparable to the others despite being on the mainland instead of an island.
Cost for using their guides would be $550/day if we stay somewhere else. Being on the mainland (either Placencia or Punta Gorda) could be cheaper because we could avoid the all-inclusive costs. There are other lodging options in the area including ones very nearby plus one we've loved a mile from town in the jungle -
Hickatee Cottages - but that might not be as convenient for fishing.
Probably the lodging that makes the most sense is
Beya Suites, very near to Garbutt's. Here are
the reviews. Suites with full kitchens are $109/night and studios with kitchenettes (fridge and micro) are $95/night. Maybe cheaper on the
Airbnb site?
There are lots of interesting things to do in the area - spice tours, Garifuna drumming, jungle hikes, Maya sites, caving.
~ GUATEMALA ~
I will definitely spend a few weeks in Guatemala enjoying our apartment, the perfect weather, and visiting the families of our new Beca Project students. We haven't decided whether we'll start with Guatemala or end up there and Mike doesn't know what part of that he's interested in but at most days instead of weeks and he might fly home from Belize. For the sake of the flow here, I'll say we're going to Guatemala next.
Obviously the plan depends on who is in and the group's interests and budgets. There are 4 routes from Belize to Guatemala. The first 2 involve heading to Flores, either by road or by flying from Belize City to Flores. From Flores we could visit Tikal...
... and maybe other sites like Yaxhá, or take a night bus or fly to Guatemala City. We probably wouldn't choose to stay in Guatemala City but would head to Antigua or Lake Atitlán - more on those later.
The 3rd route is the quickest and likely most expensive which is to fly from Belize City directly to Guatemala City; it might cost around $100/per person to fly from wherever we end up to Belize City and $300/pp from there to Guatemala City.
The 4th is to take a boat from Punta Gorda to the Caribbean coast of Guatemala, either Livingston or Puerto Barrios. They sit on either side of the mouth of the Rio Dulce River which flows through a beautiful gorge. We could boat up the gorge and stay a night or 2 on the river if we wanted to; there's a ruin of an old fort, hot waterfalls, and kayaking on offer.
From there we'd head by bus to Guatemala City and beyond. A good first stop is Antigua, a beautiful colonial city and United Nations World Heritage site.
Exploring colonial ruin sites, the market, and people watching in the parque central are favorite activities.
Sometimes from the rooftop of the hotel I can see Volcán Fuego erupting at night.
A trip we've had our eyes on is hiking to the top of neighboring Volcán Acatenango (13,000+ feet) and camping up there to watch Fuego erupt. It's a challenging hike but we've all done harder ones. :-)
OX Expeditions is one of the outfitters I'd consider but I need to research more.
Always for me, Lake Atitlán is the highlight of my time in Guatemala. It's really beautiful - ringed with volcanos as well as towns and villages, each with its own style, traditions, and traditional dress.
There are hikes along the lake, peak hikes, kayaking, soccer games, coffee tours, and visits to neighboring villages. The town of San Pedro where our apartment (Ti Wachooch) is has a vibrant market and is a good jumping off point for all of the activities listed above.
Mynor and Josefa and their sons Antonio and Manuel are dear friends and up for adventure. They're hoping to do the overnight Acatenango hike with us.
In addition to the gorgeous textiles...
...there's a vibrant folk art community in San Pedro.
I have several friends who have made names for themselves in the US, too -
Marlon Puac who exhibits internationally
When others join us I often set up cooking classes and weaving demonstrations.
Some trips I take Spanish classes at the Cooperativa Spanish School but I don't know if I will make time this trip.
One thing I know I want to make time for again is birding - there are some great areas around the lake and the big prize is Guatemala's national bird, the resplendent quetzal. Partly I just like hiking around in beautiful environments.
Another thing I love about San Pedro is Beca Project - visiting students and their families and seeing them around town. If you're with me you're likely to get hugged, too.
We have a double-sized air mattress at Ti Wachooch so you could stay with us there...
...or we could all stay on the lake in one of Mynor and Josefa's new apartments. Gorgeous!
(That's my friend Susie who stayed with me there in November.)
~ SO ~
That's the current state of my trip dreaming! We'll keep digging, especially where fishing options are concerned, and look forward to hearing the ideas and opinions of everyone else. HAPPY TRAILS!